tv The Lead With Jake Tapper CNN December 5, 2022 1:00pm-2:00pm PST
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mayo. >> first, you've asked my heart to withstand eggnog and that's a challenge. now you want me to put a quarter cup of mayo in it on top of it. i can only handle so much. >> keep it away from my beverages. i don't like it with anything, but i know you like to eat it from time to time. >> i like it on my fries. >> i'll allow that, but this, i will not allow. >> the cognac, rum, where they put five liquors in, that is glorious. why do we have to mix things? pepsi was fine as pepsi. >> i think we're finally in agreement about all of this. >> the lead with jake tapper starts right now. so who might intentionally have targeted u.s. electricity infrastructure?
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and why? the lead starts right now. moments ago, the north carolina governor addressing a criminal act, a targeted attack on power substations leaving thousands of customers including those in hospitals without power in the december cold. are there any suspects and does online chatter point to any possible motive? plus, protesters in two very different countries taking on two very oppressive regimes. could their demonstrations spark change in iran and china? plus, the wonder of that erupting volcano in hawaii that's more like an emotional trigger for those who live near the mountain's base. welcome to the lead. we start today with our national lead. moments ago, we got an update from officials in north carolina after the fbi joined an investigation there into quote intention intentional and
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targeted attacks that left tens of thousands of north carolina without power. found at least two power substati substations damaged by gunfire in moore county. local officials have not announced a suspect or motive and the local sheriff has not ruled it out as an act of domestic terrorism. attacks on the united states power grid have been subject of extremist chatter in recent years and whitney starts off our coverage from moore county, north korecarolina where it coue days before power is restored. >> reporter: moore county will be plunged into darkness again tonight after the sheriff says someone opened fire on two power stations in north carolina. >> our medical calls have increased due to people being on oxygen or having other medical devices that require power. we've had a increase in fire alarms. we've had an increase in traffic
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accident accidents. >> reporter: police are working to find the person or people responsible for what they say was an intentional criminal act. so far, they are releasing little information saying only the attack happened saturday night and a gate at one of the stations was removed. power went down around 7:00 p.m., the same time a drag show was set to take place. social media buzz was that it was some kind of effort to stop the show, but police say they have found no evidence connecting the two. >> no motivation. no group has stepped up to acknowledge or accept they're the ones that done it. >> reporter: it's the type of incident law enforcement and home land security officials have warned about. the department of homeland security updated its bulletin november 30th, sounding the alarm about attacks on critical infrastructure. the attacks have left the community scrambling and power likely won't be restored until
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thursday. >> got no way to heat because we don't have a fireplace and we don't have no gas grill or anything like that so we're just stranded. >> reporter: at mcneill oil and p prop propane, they're the only fuel prov provider. >> we figured out a way to rig up a truck so we can fuel emergency services, police, fire, ems. we started this and it was a long night saturday night and we've been going ever since. >> reporter: clark is a third generation owner of the family business and this is the first time they opened it up for drive through service. >> never seen anything like it. keep moore county in your thoughts and prayers. i hope they find who did this because it's senseless. >> reporter: earlier this year, the department of homeland security issued a memo saying
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that since 2020, domestic violence extremist have been saying on social media that the energy grid is a particularly attractive target, jake. so certainly what happened is the department of homeland security warned about something that ended up coming to fruition which is very startling for law enforcement. meanwhile, here, as they await for the power to come back, schools still closed for tomorrow and a curfew will be in place tonight. >> thanks. let's discuss juliet, the former assistant secretary for the department of homeland security and john miller. john, walk us through what you think is likely happening on the ground in moore county right now. how do these investigations work? how can they figure out who did this? >> well, it's great to know a motive if that gives you a way to start towards people who have that, but they don't have that now. so right now, they're going to be doing video canvases, which is hard in a remote area. not a lot of video there.
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trying to find where was the shooter. did they leave footprints, shell casings. is there a fingerprint or dna? some of that can be done by getting an entrance or a bullet if it went through something and reversing it with a laser beam if it can take you to a shooting position that was secrete. there's a similar case to this in 2013 in another power station in california that remains unsolved. because of the areas they occur on, it's a tough one. >> juliet, the sheriff would not say whether it was an act of domestic terrorism. how will investigators figure out what the motive is? >> if you find suspects or just what john was talking about if you have evidence that will lead you to someone, that's going to be the most helpful. there's lots of rumors about online chatter, but really only two options or three. there could be a foreign threat.
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unlikely because it's a small area. it doesn't have that sort of impact you think a foreign attack would. it would be domestic terrorism, was something going on and the lights turned out at an lgbtq event. the third is an insider threat. what we heard in the press conferences is the shooting of the areas was targeted enough so bring down two different facilities and impact that many people. you don't just drive by these places and know where to shoot. they will be looking at the potential there was either casing or someone who knew the area, the facilities and knew where to shoot. these aren't drive by incidents. these are ones in which you're targeting directly. >> and they would to know quite a bit about infrastructure. >> these are big structures. z >> and john, we don't know the motive, but you flagged a document passed around by some white supremacist groups talking
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about power stations in order to commit racially oriented attacks. it says quote, peppered all over the country, substations that keep electricity floating. sitting ducks, worthy prey, with the power off, all hell will break loose making conditions desirable for our race to take back what is ours. heinous concept there. how might posting factor into this vinvestigation? >> over the last couple of years, there's been a real uptick and i think the undersecretary of homeland security rementioned this today since it came out in a report in 2020. a real uptick and focus on the power grid. i'm thinking back in 2020, i was seeing reports of the three individuals arrested in las vegas from the boogaloo boys group who were conspireing to attack the grid.
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the national socialist order suggested attacking the power grid in their online presence and documents. and july 16th, we had a philadelphia incident where a drone flew into a power station and i won't go into the details, but it was equipped to attempt the short out the system there. then there's the 14-page document which kind of gives the how to of sniper rifles an the power grid. this has been a real focus on the idea that you cause kchaos n the white supremacist or movement and it will help you get there. >> there were rumors that the attack was perhaps an attempt to stop a local drag show. he said that investigators have not been able to tie that back. >> even if someone takes credit and says, oh, i know what happened, it may just be hyperbole to siay they're in th
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loop. that's obviously relevant, what did he or she know, but you don't want to be dissuaded from the real perpetrators as john is saying and there's a whole pool of people who could qualify both because of their ideology, but also maybe their past employment. we just don't know yet. >> early days. thanks to both. one day out from georgia's runoff race, coming up, the new money and math that be a problem for herschel walker as democrats try to stop republicans. plus, the supreme court case brought on by a website designer that could define the line between religious freedom and lgbt individuals to not be discriminated against. stay with h us. ♪ what will you do? will you make something better?
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begin after he finishes a five-year term. also in our politics lead . in the final stretch. they've already set a record for single day early voting turnout, but this runoff has had far fewer days of early voting than previous years. jeff sereports donald trump has made a latch ditch effort to drag herschel walker across the finish line. >> reporter: one final day of overtime in georgia. >> we are on the verge of victory. but i don't want us to do the victory dance before we actually get into the end zone. >> reporter: senator warnock exuded confidence, but warning democrats against being complacent on the eve of his runoff against republican challenger, herschel walker. >> you can know you got a champion in herschel walker. >> reporter: with control of the senate set to stay in democratic hands, walker implored --
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>> vote, vote, vote. >> reporter: it's the final big act of the 2022 midterm election with georgia voters again having the last word. more than 1.8 million have cast ballots, but both sides know the outcome depends on turnout on tuesday. >> nothing could be more important for our democracy than you're showing up. >> walker faces steep challenges. democrats have doubled more than gop ad spending. $55 million to 26 million in tv spots that have flooded the georgia air waves to the cost of $81 million. the former football great is also scrambling to overcome a 200,000 vote shortfall. walker's supporters are keeping hope alive. >> you think more may come out to vote on tuesday? >> i think there will be a lot
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of republicans to be out and vote and i think a lot of them have voted. we voted early this time. >> reporter: it's voters like john and mark haines who keep the outcome of the runoff in suspense with their votes among the early ballots democrats are counting on. >> call your father, mother, sister, and brother. tell them it's time to vote. >> reporter: the white house is also watching closely. a warnock win would give democrats a majority in the senate. not only breathing room, but protection for the president and his agenda from the republican controlled house. as for the president, jacqke, president biden has not stepped foot in georgia. he is calling into a radio station this afternoon. donald trump who recruited walker to run for this race in the first place, he also has not been campaigning here at the request of the walker campaign,
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but he's also calling into a tele rally tonight, trying to urge his supporters to vote for walker tomorrow. >> all right, jeff, thanks so much. this is the final race of the entire midterm election season. cnn's special coverage begins tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. coming up, significant changes by two oppressive regimes after protesters took on those in power. stay with us. helping them achieve financial freedom. we're proud to serve people everywhere, in investing for the retetiremet they envision. from the plains to the coasts, we help americans invest for their future. and help communities thrive.
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video hit russia's strategic bombers. while ukraine has not claimed responsibility, president putin seems dead set on making winter as miserable as possible for as many in the ukrainian public as he can. will ripley is in kyiv right now, the capital where ukrainians are responding with resilience and unity. >> reporter: in ukraine, winter is coming. snow is not the only thing falling from the skies. on monday, a massive missile attack by russia. more than 70 missiles launched. ukraine's air force says more than 60 intercepted. forcing thousands in kyiv to seek shelter underground. >> the goal of this attack is to bring destruction to our energy system. >> reporter: crews are racing to restore power, but they're running out of soviet era replacement parts adding urgency
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to ukraine's request. and more generators. the latest attack plunging entire cities into darkness. at this fast food place, braving below zero temperatures at the outdoor grill keeps the doors open when the lights are off. some customers said they only want to come when there's no power because the food tastes so much better. we're just ukrainians, she says. that's our secret ingredient. another secret for surviving dark times. candles, a good cry, and prayer. when you come, what do you pray for? peace. the war to be over. describing the hardship of life without electricity. but then i come here and remember how much time we spent hiding in basements. hiding from russian soldiers who occupied and terrorized their town.
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buccha, the site of what ukraine calls unspeakable war crimes. if you didn't know what happened here, this could be any church in any quiet kyiv suburb until you look closer and notice the bullet holes and this cross marking a mass grave for more than 100 men, women, and two children. like five of his neighbors. what did it sound like? a cluster bomb. bullet holes in her children's bedroom windows. after living through the hell of the russian occupation, she can handle living without power. >> what is the real problem is where it's not electricity. we don't have any connection. so i have kids and if something wrong, i cannot even call to the hospital and call emergency. >> reporter: she tells me when the power goes out, she loses cell service and internet, but then -- >> oh, god, this miracle. >> reporter: the first place she
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goes. the kitchen. coffee. that's your number one priority. >> yes, my number one. >> reporter: she's grateful for the little things in life. >> it's a moment of happiness. >> reporter: grateful just to be alive. it is surreal and chilling to sit in the kitchen with her there and she's sipping her coffee and telling me how her neighbors were executed by the russian soldiers right outside her house and she and her kids sat for a month and looked out the window and the bodies just stayed there and people were too afraid to move them because the soldiers had taken over another house down the street. she said she'll take the power outages as long as she's being defended by the military. >> thank you so much. turning to extraordinary protests directed at two of the world's harshest regimes, china and iran. each was sparked by a single event and spread rapidly
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revealing years of discontent, but will these rare and risky demonstrations lead to actual change in iran and china? we'll start with melissa bell on a potentially seismic shift in iran where officials say the mandatory hijab law is under review. >> it was her death in the custody of iran's morality police in september that led to the outpouring of grief and anger that has gripped an entire country. demonstrations calling for justice and change that have now lasted for nearly three months. antigovernment protests led by women around the rallying cry, woman, life, freedom, and chants of death to the supreme leader. but now, signs of a possible shift in the government's hard line policy. iran's attorney general saying that the mandatory hijab law is now under review by the
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judiciary and parliament. but iranian state media have pushed back strongly on his comments, noting that the forces part of the interior ministry and not the judiciary. the interior ministry has not responded to cnn's request for comment. what one lawyer was saying was that the morality police has become so notorious and such a bad name that no official is willing to take responsibility for it essentially. this official claiming that it has been disbanded. but what's important is that the law of the mandatory hijab, which goes back to early 1980s, on paper, has not changed. >> speaking to cnn, women in tehran were skeptical about the possibility of change. >> it's the regime propaganda. they just changed the name of their forces as they did before so the media would announce that they have backed down then they continue all the brutal stuff they were doing. >> with iran's hard line president hinting on saturday
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that any reform may be limited in its scope. >> translator: iran's republican and islamic foundations are constitutionally entrenched, but there are methods of implementing the constitution that can be flexible. >> the stance taken by several iranian celebrities and athletes in support of the protests suggest the crucial barriers of fear of the regime may have been broken. with a widening also of the protesters demands for more rights for women to the end of the regime itself. and a sense that any reforms it undertakes now may prove too little too late. now today, jake, was the first day of a three-day nationwide strike that's been called by the protesters and appears to have been fairly widely observed across the country in several iranian cities. this as the country and world beyond it waits to hear whether those limited concessions will
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or will not be made and perhaps more importantly, whether such concessions would be enough to convince the protesters to go home and stop seeking a revolution that so many hoped for. >> thanks for that report. now to china, last week, police confiscated riders' smartphones and deleted apps to se. >> sean: senator images. at the same time, police flooded the streets. in some cases calling for regime change as well, but today, a remarkable shift in easing of some restrictions for commuters. t they no longer have to show evidence of a negative covid test to take public transportation in most major cities in china. selena, does the chinese public, do they think the easing of these restrictions is evidence the protests may have worked in some small way? >> reporter: yeah, jake. it is just remarkable to see
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that. in china, protests appear to have forced the communist party to change its tune on covid. authorities, they've been cracking down on these demonstrator, but it made them realize zee roe covid is not sustainable and even a threat to social stability, which the communist party is obsessed with. so we are seeing easing of restrictions. more than 20 cities scrapping that environment for coindividual tests on public tr transport. some are allowing residents to quarantine at home instead of a quarantine facility, but all of these changes are happening in a patchwork across the country. so as some places are loosening rules, others are clinging to harsh restrictions. for instance, here in beijing, we're still standing outside in the cold every other day waiting in long lines to get that 48-hour pcr test required to still get into most public places. we're still tracked everywhere we go and forced to scan our health codes and there's still
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the threat of being sent to quarantine. this country, it has built up this whole infrastructure around zero covid. it's been pouring all of its resources toward these mass quarantine facilities and testing rather than vaccinations and healthcare capacity, which are necessary for a real reopening. >> thank you so much. coming up next, hear what supreme court justices said about the case brought on by a website designer who refuses to do business for same-sex couples. stay with us. and the effects are being felt everywhere. that's why at chevron, we're incrcreasing production in the permian basin by 15%. and we'rere projected to reach 1 million barrels of oil per day by 2025. all while staying on track to reduce our carbon emissions intensity in the area. because it's only human to tackle the challenges of today to help ensure a brighter tomorrow. if your business kept on employees through the pandemic, innovation refunds
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my most important kitchen tool? my brain. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger. the u.s. supreme court heard arguments today over a case that pits two competing american principles against each other. free speech and freedom of religion and the right to not be des criminated against. on one side, a graphic designer should be forced by governor to take customers who want her to make websites promoting same-sex weddings and the other side,
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whether lgbtq couples have a right to receive services from private businesses free of discrimination just like a straight couple. jessica schneider has more on this fight. >> the supreme court now poised to decide whether certain businesses can refuse to work with same-sex couples on the basis of free speech. >> granting such a license to discriminate would empower all businesses that offer what they believe to be expressive services, from architects to photographers to consultants, to refuse service to customers because of their disability, sexual orientation, religion, or race. >> colorado web designer, lori smith, who openly declares she's selective and websites she'll design, brought the case. she's asking the supreme court to rule she does not have to comply with a state law that prohibits businesses from discriminating. >> the state of colorado is forcing me to create custom
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artwork, communicating and celebrating a different view of marriage. a view that goes against my deeply held believes. >> but the liberal leaning justices expressed concern that if creators can choose their customers, discrimination can run rampant. brown jackson asking if whether a mall photographer if only white kids can sit on santa's lap or sonia sotomayor asking about disabled couples being turned away. >> there's no line on race. there's no line on disability, ethnicity. none of the protected categories. >> the first amendment is broad enough to cover the lesbian we can designer. the line is that no one on any side of any debate has to be compelled to express a microaggression that violates their convictions. >> she says she's in the business of speech and while she's not opposed to working with same-sex couples in other
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areas, she argues she should choose the method. >> so the question is who, it's what. >> always. >> why are you right about how you characterize website designers? why are they different from say restaurants? >> because they're creating speech. in those other examples, speech is not an issue. >> the supreme court sidestepped this issue four years ago, ruling in favor of a colorado baker, but on narrow grounds that only applied to that case. now the stakes are much higher with concern building among lgbtq advocates that a ruling for the website designer could be a harbinger for other adverse rulings. >> if there were to be a loophole of the kind discussed, people with disabilities, african americans, jews, muslims, others, could find themselves without access to the marketplace. >> now there's currently no case
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before the supreme court that would eliminate the rate to same-sex major but there's still a concern that the justices could overturp that precedent. it was just a few months ago they overturned roe v. wade and the justice said they should take a look at overturning other precedents including the 2015 ruling that established same-sex marriage nationwide. >> thanks so much. let's bring in the deputy legal director for the aclu and douglas, professor of religious studies at the virginia law school. douglas, at issue here is colorado's anti discrimination law. are the religious rights of this web designer violated by a colorado law that states she cannot refuse service based on someone's sexual orientation? >> well, religion is her
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motivation, but this is not actually a freedom of religion case. the court refused to review that issue. so this is about free speech. which is troublesome in some ways because everyone has free speech rights and would not be limited just to religious objectors. her job is to promote and celebrate this wedding and make these events around the wedding the most memorable, the best they can be. and use her creative talents to promote that message. so this is clearly compelled speech of a sort the court has said for decades the government cannot demand. >> and you disagree. why? >> this case is really about our nation's civil rights laws. this case is whether or not there's a constitutional right to discriminate.
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to argue the right of free speech would give you the right to override the compelling interests the government has. this doesn't say anything about what the product is. what the colorado law regulates is the conduct. the conduct of turning people away. if you listen to the argument, listening to what jessica was reporting earlier, there's really not many limits to the theory that was being advanced in this case in terms of what communicates a message. we know it's not limited to words because counsel argues it applies to cakes, flowers. and justice kennedy just a few years ago in masterpiece said when you start to have a long list of people getting refused services, services around weddings and marriages, what you have is a community wide stigma that's inconsistent with our civil rights laws. i feel as if what's happened in these cases is the focus is being put on the product and the owner when what the laws do is
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regulate the conduct of whether you're shown to the door because of who you are in violation of our nation's civil rights laws. >> and douglas, the church of jesus christ latter day saints did not accept blacked as full members until 1978. using the argument you're making, could a mormon business person in 1977, should that person have been allowed to discriminate against a black couple because of their religious views? >> not in my view. i think the lawyer for web designer here gave the other answer, but in my view, race is constitutionally unique. no other right, no other category protected class however badly may have been treated, 250 years of slavery required civil war, 250,000 dead and three
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constitutional amendments to try to achieve some version of equality and we're still trying to make that work. i think the government has a compelling interest in race cases that it doesn't have in other civil rights cases. >> and louise, many mainstream religions do not allow same-sex marriage. where is the line here in your view? because obviously you're not in favor of telling the catholic ch church it has to officiate same-sex marriage ceremonies. z z >> right. there's a difference as a leader of faith have to officiate and perform weddings whether what's at issue here is this is a place of public accommodation. this is a business. an institution that has chosen to open itself up to the public and sterve the public and once you do that, you're bound by our nation's civil rights laws that say you can't discriminate and here, you know, if you accept the theories that were being advanced in the courtroom, you
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could have a photography studio that refused for example to take pictures of women executives. to do head shots because that would communicate a view that it was appropriate for women to be executives. we can go through the list and it's quite endless in a way that is a threat to our civil rights laws. >> all right. thank you so much. appreciate your time today. up next, one of the most unique views of that erupting volcano. cnn is along for the ride. stay with us.
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national lead and live images right now from hawaii's big island. this is the u.s. geological survey's webcam that shows the mauna loa volcano continuing to erupt. we're capturing remarkable images from above and stories on the ground from those who know firsthand the life-changing power of these volcanos. >> reporter: we are on the road before sunrise, quickly realizing we can already spot our destination some 30 miles out. there you see it, that red-orange glow, mauna loa erupting. to give you a better view, we go up in the morning dark. paradise helicopters, darryn hamilton, our pilot and guide, giving us rare access. >> it's just off the eastern
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side there at about the 1:00 position, that is the plume. >> reporter: having flown in military hot zones, darryn even admits this is fire power like no other. >> what was it like the first time you flew over lava? >> it was a blast. >> reporter: it can also be challenging, especially with heavy volcanic smog. >> today you can see the gases. >> those acidic gases dangerous if the concentration levels are too high. on the ground, officials closely watching the lava's potential impact on the main highway that connects the east and west of the island. erupting last sunday for the first time in 38 years, mauna loa, the world's largest active volcano is one of five that make up hawaii's big island. neighboring kilauea is also active, though no longer shooting lava to the surface. >> this is where my house was
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at. it's that way on the opposite side of the subdivision. >> reporter: dorothy invited us to where her home now sits, buried under 60 feet of lava. you can see a metal street light fused into the rock. four years after kilauea did this, she still walks it as if he's on her old street with her old neighbors. >> i assume you're all dispersed after that. >> yeah, we lost that sense of community is what we lost, in addition to the homes. >> reporter: mauna loa's eruption, an emotional trigger for dorothy and others, forcing the trauma from kilauea back to the surface. the 2018 lava flow knocked out 600 homes here, some untouched but left lava locked. dorothy showed us this video she captured a few weeks back, helping friends gather the last of their belongings from their home. the reminders of devastation here are demiss.
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>> this was their home. they evacuated the second night and it went under the third night. >> four years later, it's still standing? >> it's still standing. >> how long will it stay like that? >> probably 30 to 40 years. >> how is it that you can still see beauty after so much chaos? >> because lava is beautiful. that's how the island was formed, that's how the island was built. >> reporter: an appreciation shared by native hawaiians, leaving offerings, and thousands of tourists and locals arriving past sunset just to witness the lava glow. nighttime traffic backs up for miles. to avoid the congestion, let's get back to the skies. >> that's 2,000 to 3,000 degrees fahrenheit. that's molten rock flowing like water. >> reporter: which has already crossed one volcano road, power lines and all, a searing slice
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right through it. >> you can feel the heat as soon as you get close to it. >> look at the molten rock, the flow. you see the current of lava. >> darryn estimates it's moving 30 to 40 miles per hour. >> just spewing from the top. >> reporter: jake, the experience, i struggle to find words. it was unreal to fly over that lava and have those sensory moments of the heat and also the smell of the sulfur, which is starting to smell across the island. so it is starting to spread quickly. the concentration of it has not reached that level where it's really concerning. overall they're watching as it inches closer to the main highway we've been talking about, the road that sits now two miles from the edge of the lava. and it is crawling closer, about 25 feet per hour, and they're worried if it continues erupting, which as of now it seems to be, it could cause major issues. >> david culver in hawaii,
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. this hour the kremlin launching new strikes into ukraine targeting power and water. this hour we'll introduce you to russians who are in ukraine fighting against their own. >> plus, parents across the country scrambling to find childrens' pain medications. what is driving this latest drug shortage? leading this hour, georgia on our mind. it's the final day of campaigning before voters decide
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